By G. Manimaran
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 8 — Zulkifli Noordin, the Kulim Bandar Baharu MP who has been referred to the PKR disciplinary committee, defended himself by saying he is not a Taliban or an extremist.
“No, no. I’m not a Taliban... but if some people think that way, what can I do?” he told The Malaysian Insider yesterday.
Earlier, Zulkifli showed off his saxophone. The first-term MP can also play the flute.
“So how can people call me a Taliban?” he said.
“I am only upholding my religion, Islam, I am not an extremist,” added Zulkifli.
He asked if defending one’s own religion can be construed as an “extreme act.”
“If you kill someone, OK... that is an extremist act. I am only defending my religion, Islam,” said Zulkifli who also blogs about Islam.
“I am only defending my religion and I don’t interfere with the affairs of other religions, be it Christianity, Buddhism or Hinduism. I respect other religions... but when my religion is challenged, I cannot compromise. I put religion before everything else (including political party),” said Zulkifli, adding that he was raised in a secular environment and attended Anderson Secondary School in Ipoh and King Edward VII Secondary School, Taiping.
He received his early education in Ashby Road (English) Primary School, Ipoh. Zulkifli then enrolled in Pakuranga College in New Zealand for A-Levels before joining Victoria University in Wellington, New Zealand from 1982 to 1986.
Zulkifli claimed that because of his strong conviction, he is now labelled a “reformist” or “fundamentalist.”
“To believe strongly in our religion is not an extremist act,” said Zulkifli, admitting that he became a pious Muslim when his daughter was born.
His “extremist” views attracted the attention of the public following his participation in a protest to oppose the Bar Council’s forum on the conversion to Islam in Kuala Lumpur on Aug 9, 2008. Zulkifli is also a Muslim Lawyers Association exco member.
He is often at odds with his political party and was hauled up by the PKR disciplinary committee for the Bar Council protest but no action was taken against him.
This time his stand on the use of the word “Allah” by non-Muslims contradicts the PKR’s position.
“In this world, anyone who is the first to bring change will be perceived as a reformist and will be opposed... like the Prophet,” he said.
He claimed that liberal groups within all religions, not just Islam, have emerged in the country.
Therefore, said Zulkifli, his defence of the sanctity of Islam has made certain parties unhappy.
“At one stage in life, when you have money, although I am not that rich... I have family and everything, you start asking what is the purpose in life. So I started to understand myself which led me to this cause,” he said.
Zulkifli added that when he was reading law in New Zealand in the 1980s, he lived with a Christian family and his room-mate at the hostel was also a Christian.
“Look at my background,” he said and reiterated that it is not right to say that he does not mix with people of different religious beliefs.
As an MP Zulkifli had also attempted to table motions on Islam that are against PKR policy.
Last month, PKR de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said Zulkifli had crossed the line by lodging a police report against Shah Alam MP Khalid Samad.
“I have always given space for Zulkifli to express his views but I cannot agree with him.
“I have advised him not to create tension among Pakatan partners, but he had crossed the line this time,” said Anwar who is also the Pakatan Rakyat (PR) leader.
Because of his most recent action, Zulkifli has been referred to the PKR disciplinary committee again. The committee will conclude their investigation into the case by the end of the month.
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written by Jaq, February 08, 2010
written by Jaq, February 08, 2010
There is nothing wrong about defending own religion, but they way you supress and discrimate other religion is indeed wrong!
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written by Unconvinced, February 08, 2010
written by Unconvinced, February 08, 2010
"but when my religion is challenged, I cannot compromise."
You talk big and loud like this when you are safe and comfortable in a muslim majority country where you get away with sedition and even murder under the patronage of UMNO. If your conviction is so very strong, go and defend your religion in China, India, Mindanao, South Thailand, S Myanmar, Nigeria, Somalia, USA, UK, France, etc etc., then you have my respect.
You talk big and loud like this when you are safe and comfortable in a muslim majority country where you get away with sedition and even murder under the patronage of UMNO. If your conviction is so very strong, go and defend your religion in China, India, Mindanao, South Thailand, S Myanmar, Nigeria, Somalia, USA, UK, France, etc etc., then you have my respect.
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written by bengkang, February 08, 2010
written by bengkang, February 08, 2010
then be a devout Muslim and preach,do not go into politics,it's just not your cup of tea.
malu la saya jadi org Kulim,MP buat menyemak saja.
malu la saya jadi org Kulim,MP buat menyemak saja.
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written by swipenter, February 08, 2010
written by swipenter, February 08, 2010
You cant even agree to people to hold a civilised discussion on interfaith issues and you claim that you are not an ultra. How do you reconcile that? Or you are saying "I am not an extremist as long as you agree with my views." or in your words " when my religion is challenged I cannot compromised." I wonder how and what you mean by others as "challenging your religion."
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written by konan, February 08, 2010
written by konan, February 08, 2010
This statement from Zul is akin to Nasir/Awang/Ahmad Penang : I am no racist.
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written by wan, February 08, 2010
“…… I put religion before everything else (including political party),” said Zulkifli.
Isn’t this what Taliban believe in?
written by wan, February 08, 2010
“…… I put religion before everything else (including political party),” said Zulkifli.
Isn’t this what Taliban believe in?
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written by PH Chin, February 08, 2010
written by PH Chin, February 08, 2010
"“I am only defending my religion and I don’t interfere with the affairs of other religions, be it Christianity, Buddhism or Hinduism. I respect other religions... but when my religion is challenged, I cannot compromise. I put religion before everything else (including political party),” said Zulkifli."
What a religious and pious man, YB Zulkifli.
Why not be an ustaz, since religion is your ultimate goal in life ? You can be a true champion of Islam then. Politics may not be your bowl of rice.
What a religious and pious man, YB Zulkifli.
Why not be an ustaz, since religion is your ultimate goal in life ? You can be a true champion of Islam then. Politics may not be your bowl of rice.
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written by Hailan, February 08, 2010
written by Hailan, February 08, 2010
Dude, a lot of extremists always claimed that they lived or studied in a secular enviroment, etc. All these histories do not matter, what really matter is what you are thinking now. I don't care if you lived with a Christian and studied in NZ. The very fact is that you are exerting your fundamental idea as a MP! The very fact is that you are not considerate for the non-Muslim non Malay population in this country.
Why not you ask your previous non-Muslim roommate or housemate what he thinks of your statement now?
Why not you ask your previous non-Muslim roommate or housemate what he thinks of your statement now?
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written by No_Wonder_I_Don't_Play_Instruments!, February 08, 2010
written by No_Wonder_I_Don't_Play_Instruments!, February 08, 2010
Wow, thanks Mr. Kulim MP for shedding light to a question I have pondered for decades.
Clearly I now know the answer to the burning question: "Why am I so musically-challenged?"
I must be "a Taliban"!
I mean, I'm not even sure what that means, but when an MP tells me something, you betcha I'm gonna believe them cuz they iz always so so clevers!
Good grief.
p/s: Just to check, maybe the MP can clarify this for my tiny mind: If someone played Eastern instruments such as the sitar or the Chinese flute, then would they be a LTTE or a Mao loyalist?
Thank heavens we have our tireless MP to answer such life-altering questions for us. Grrrrr.
Clearly I now know the answer to the burning question: "Why am I so musically-challenged?"
I must be "a Taliban"!
I mean, I'm not even sure what that means, but when an MP tells me something, you betcha I'm gonna believe them cuz they iz always so so clevers!
Good grief.
p/s: Just to check, maybe the MP can clarify this for my tiny mind: If someone played Eastern instruments such as the sitar or the Chinese flute, then would they be a LTTE or a Mao loyalist?
Thank heavens we have our tireless MP to answer such life-altering questions for us. Grrrrr.
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written by alafuw, February 08, 2010
written by alafuw, February 08, 2010
Zul asked if "defending one’s own religion can be construed as an “extreme act.”"
Apparently, yes. And this is according to Zul himself. He did say that Malaysian Christians are being extremists because they demand to continue to use the word Allah. But the Christians feel that they are just defending their religion.
Also, Christianity, like Islam, is a proselytising religion. But Zul feels that it is 'melampau' for Christians to spread their religion to Muslims. Regardless of what the law says, one cannot deny that the Christians are required by their religion to propagate Christianity to all and sundry. So those who follow their religion's commands are actually defending their religion. But Zul thinks they're extremists.
To Zul, only Muslims can defend their religion. Adherents of other religion who do the same are extremists.
Apparently, yes. And this is according to Zul himself. He did say that Malaysian Christians are being extremists because they demand to continue to use the word Allah. But the Christians feel that they are just defending their religion.
Also, Christianity, like Islam, is a proselytising religion. But Zul feels that it is 'melampau' for Christians to spread their religion to Muslims. Regardless of what the law says, one cannot deny that the Christians are required by their religion to propagate Christianity to all and sundry. So those who follow their religion's commands are actually defending their religion. But Zul thinks they're extremists.
To Zul, only Muslims can defend their religion. Adherents of other religion who do the same are extremists.
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written by Hailan, February 08, 2010
written by Hailan, February 08, 2010
Dude, a lot of extremists always claimed that they lived or studied in a secular enviroment, etc. All these histories do not matter, what really matter is what you are thinking now. I don't care if you lived with a Christian and studied in NZ. The very fact is that you are exerting your fundamental idea as a MP! The very fact is that you are not considerate for the non-Muslim non Malay population in this country.
Why not you ask your previous non-Muslim roommate or housemate what he thinks of your statement now?
Why not you ask your previous non-Muslim roommate or housemate what he thinks of your statement now?
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written by my humble opionion, February 08, 2010
written by my humble opionion, February 08, 2010
The problem is that, taliban also think the same as you, they also feel that "their" Islam is challenged, they also think that they are not extremists. People look outside, they never look inside to double check or triple check their own definition of "Islam". All the fightings in the world, whether related to Islam or not, they are the results of different definitions, different opinions and all of them upholding own their own definitions. And they will not want to check/verify to see why is their own definitions are so different from others. They think they are the only one who is correct.
Coming back to the "Allah" definition issue. Now who is challenging who ? Can't you see that in Indonesia it's ok for Muslim to share the use of "Allah" with non-Muslim ? Can't you see that in the Middle East it's ok for Muslim to share the use of "Allah" with non-Muslim ? Can't you see that you are the one who is trying to monopolize the use of the word as the word has been used by the East Malaysian non-Muslims long long time before you start to (attempt to) monopolize it ?
Coming back to the "Allah" definition issue. Now who is challenging who ? Can't you see that in Indonesia it's ok for Muslim to share the use of "Allah" with non-Muslim ? Can't you see that in the Middle East it's ok for Muslim to share the use of "Allah" with non-Muslim ? Can't you see that you are the one who is trying to monopolize the use of the word as the word has been used by the East Malaysian non-Muslims long long time before you start to (attempt to) monopolize it ?
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written by Trigem, February 08, 2010
written by Trigem, February 08, 2010
In strict definition, all religious people have to be extremists. If they go by their scriptures, these people must conform to their religious doctrines with 100% conviction or they can't be called believer. They can't be half-hearted believers. Therefore, there is no such thing as liberal or moderate believer, for they all believe in satan as well to which they must fight!
By just the choice of word, you are already reacted with fury. Where is the "peaceful" side of you? What kind of loss will you incur if somebody else uses the same word as yours? There is NONE. Didn't your religion ask you to be calm, compassionate, patient, kind, and helpful? All these virtues are thrown out of window when someone just say a word you don't like. You call this liberal? Can't you at least sit down to find out the origin of the word and understand the other's point of view before reacting? Isn't this a more liberal action than your childish behavior of jumping like 3-year old "kurang ajar" kid?
Oh, you can't because you are "upholding" your own religion. Fine and dandy, but stop calling yourself "non-extremist."
By just the choice of word, you are already reacted with fury. Where is the "peaceful" side of you? What kind of loss will you incur if somebody else uses the same word as yours? There is NONE. Didn't your religion ask you to be calm, compassionate, patient, kind, and helpful? All these virtues are thrown out of window when someone just say a word you don't like. You call this liberal? Can't you at least sit down to find out the origin of the word and understand the other's point of view before reacting? Isn't this a more liberal action than your childish behavior of jumping like 3-year old "kurang ajar" kid?
Oh, you can't because you are "upholding" your own religion. Fine and dandy, but stop calling yourself "non-extremist."
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written by Hailan, February 08, 2010
written by Hailan, February 08, 2010
Dude, a lot of extremists always claimed that they lived or studied in a secular enviroment, etc. All these histories do not matter, what really matter is what you are thinking now. I don't care if you lived with a Christian and studied in NZ. The very fact is that you are exerting your fundamental idea as a MP! The very fact is that you are not considerate for the non-Muslim non Malay population in this country.
Why not you ask your previous non-Muslim roommate or housemate what he thinks of your statement now?
Why not you ask your previous non-Muslim roommate or housemate what he thinks of your statement now?
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written by Arul Inthirarajah, February 08, 2010
written by Arul Inthirarajah, February 08, 2010
By objecting to the use of the word 'Allah' by Christians, a practice they have used that predates Islam, he IS interfering with the religious practices of others. Does this guy even know what he is talking about ? Or is he a poorly read ignoramus who wishes to impose his beliefs on others? I think it's the latter.
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written by Tonberry, February 08, 2010
written by Tonberry, February 08, 2010
HE still does not understand. We are not saying he should kill someone to become a Taliban. We are merely referring to his mindset - a Taliban mindset. If he were to send to Afghanistan to help those Talibans, he will definitely be a good candidate for a suicide-bomber.
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written by Bigjoe, February 08, 2010
written by Bigjoe, February 08, 2010
The Taliban is willing to die for their believes. If what he has to bear the consequences of what he says, he would sing a different tune..
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written by Ram Baasha, February 08, 2010
written by Ram Baasha, February 08, 2010
Hi Zul,
Since you are saying that religion comes first than party and politic, I as a representative of non-muslim voters in Kulim Bandar Bahru area would like to declare all votes that you received during last General Election as "HARAM" and challenge you to resign from you MP post. If you are not dare to resign and still wants to grab in power with your "HARAM" votes, then the conclusion is that you are not a Islam fighter, but just a troublemaker and cheap publicity seeker. I rest my case....
Since you are saying that religion comes first than party and politic, I as a representative of non-muslim voters in Kulim Bandar Bahru area would like to declare all votes that you received during last General Election as "HARAM" and challenge you to resign from you MP post. If you are not dare to resign and still wants to grab in power with your "HARAM" votes, then the conclusion is that you are not a Islam fighter, but just a troublemaker and cheap publicity seeker. I rest my case....
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written by Mutant Ninja Turtle, February 08, 2010
written by Mutant Ninja Turtle, February 08, 2010
Defending your religion does not include interfering in the practice of other religions. Neither does it include rude and violent behaviour in public. If you're not a Taliban, then Elvis is alive and well in Vegas.
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written by AnakMalaysia, February 08, 2010
written by AnakMalaysia, February 08, 2010
Nothing wrong with defending one's religion.
But to resort to violence...that is another thing!
And pls, on the Allah issue, you are suppressing the rights of minority Christians...noone is stopping Muslims from using the word... I think this is bullying!!!
A godly person is considerate and fair to everyone.... are you honestly godly? I have my doubts....
But to resort to violence...that is another thing!
And pls, on the Allah issue, you are suppressing the rights of minority Christians...noone is stopping Muslims from using the word... I think this is bullying!!!
A godly person is considerate and fair to everyone.... are you honestly godly? I have my doubts....
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written by A Sinner, February 08, 2010
written by A Sinner, February 08, 2010
“To believe strongly in our religion is not an extremist act,” said Zulkifli
I agree with your statement above. When one believe so strongly in his or her religion, it makes one more tolerant, patient and seeking more knowlege, not only on one's own religion but that of others too. This knowlegde will be used to enhance the understanding of all religion thus creating a civil society based on mutual respect for one another.
But you Sir, does not apply what your religion seek you to do!. Carilah ilmu, walaupun sampai ke negeri Cina.
I agree with your statement above. When one believe so strongly in his or her religion, it makes one more tolerant, patient and seeking more knowlege, not only on one's own religion but that of others too. This knowlegde will be used to enhance the understanding of all religion thus creating a civil society based on mutual respect for one another.
But you Sir, does not apply what your religion seek you to do!. Carilah ilmu, walaupun sampai ke negeri Cina.
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written by nevermind, February 08, 2010
written by nevermind, February 08, 2010
Why need to condemn him? As everyone has right to fight for what you believe, you also can do the same (infact by you condeming him showing that you're also fighting for your believed!). I believed as a freeman, we are allowed to voice out our happiness as well as dissatifactions...If you think you're right you should have not afraid to voice out unless you still not confident enough in your own believed! If you just keep quite than don't blame others when decision make not on your side! At least you've tried your best to fight for your believed!!
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written by Zashnain, February 08, 2010
written by Zashnain, February 08, 2010
Islam does not need defending. Its extremists that think God and the faith require defense.
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written by James Nyagam, February 08, 2010
written by James Nyagam, February 08, 2010
Perfect candidate as a suicide bomber in Afghanistan and Iraq. Skewed mentality. Hello, u can fool some people some of the time and not ALL people all the time. Podah!!!
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written by MadeADifference2TheCountry, February 08, 2010
written by MadeADifference2TheCountry, February 08, 2010
As a learned man especially lawyer cum law maker you should know everyone have got his rights accorded under the law. The court decision is made by appointed Judge according to the facts and law in place. If you feel the Judge had erred, then do the needful to disbar the Judge and if the law is grey and then amend the law at the august House regardless of party line.
This should not be confined to religion but across whole gambut of ISSUES which ailed Malaysia like education/meritocracy/race/human rights/corruption/gender/language.... to quantum leap Malaysia to high income economy instead of divide along religion/race/language/gender and political divide.
No one should have more rights at the expense of another when we are all citizens of 1 and only 1 Malaysia.
By definding one's rights at the expense of others and to fuel discord will result in continued divide, disrespect and distrust for each other and ultimate doom for The Rakyat and Malaysia.
Joint forces to enlarge the cake for all and not asked for a bigger pie on the static cake!
By MAD
MadeADifference2TheCountry
This should not be confined to religion but across whole gambut of ISSUES which ailed Malaysia like education/meritocracy/race/human rights/corruption/gender/language.... to quantum leap Malaysia to high income economy instead of divide along religion/race/language/gender and political divide.
No one should have more rights at the expense of another when we are all citizens of 1 and only 1 Malaysia.
By definding one's rights at the expense of others and to fuel discord will result in continued divide, disrespect and distrust for each other and ultimate doom for The Rakyat and Malaysia.
Joint forces to enlarge the cake for all and not asked for a bigger pie on the static cake!
By MAD
MadeADifference2TheCountry
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written by jsn, February 08, 2010
written by jsn, February 08, 2010
Peolple judge you base on your act. Talking so much not use if you intend to jump ship to UMNO please do so ASAP.
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written by nomae, February 08, 2010
written by nomae, February 08, 2010
I can only say what is the challenge? Is it Islam being challenged or is it its' followers? Islam is what Islam is; it's the way its' followers chose to apply their belief that's truly being challenged. Haven't you heard that a once vociferous anti-Islam Dutch politician embraced Islam? I'm sure he didn't be a muslim because of what most muslims said to him before.
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written by onenight4, February 08, 2010
written by onenight4, February 08, 2010
You no need to come and defend the religion. Who asks you to do that? Nobody asks you to do that by the way. Leave it to the religious dept/authority. So, don't be such a busybody and poke your head into it unneccessarily, when you are not supposed to intrude into it and made yourself a contemptuous person in the country. It has existed long before you were even been borned. So, don't talk nonsense that the religion needs your one-man defence.
You said you are not a Taliban. But, you have the hallmark of being one from your shameful action.
Don't cause any harmonious religious discord without thinking properly first before you poked your nose into such matter.
You said you are not a Taliban. But, you have the hallmark of being one from your shameful action.
Don't cause any harmonious religious discord without thinking properly first before you poked your nose into such matter.
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written by PC Tan, February 08, 2010
written by PC Tan, February 08, 2010
"Zulkifli added that when he was reading law in New Zealand in the 1980s, he lived with a Christian family and his room-mate at the hostel was also a Christian."
See! See! you are not so easily converted, are you? You mean to say that you are the only one with a strong faith while others have to be watched over by you. Sheeeeesh !!!!
See! See! you are not so easily converted, are you? You mean to say that you are the only one with a strong faith while others have to be watched over by you. Sheeeeesh !!!!
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written by David, February 08, 2010
written by David, February 08, 2010
Frankly my next question for this wolf is a sheep's clothing would be. Then would he consider the Taliban as bad muslims"
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written by John H Louis, February 08, 2010
written by John H Louis, February 08, 2010
We respect you, and your religious beliefs, but you must also allow others to defend what is their rightful claim which has been in use for a long-long time. Overnight, these rights cannot be obliterated just to give in to mere fears and suspicions and when you must talk say things that make legal sense. You are learned in the law and you can read and analyse judgments far better than the ordinary man in the bus. Therefore, there are great expectations from you as opposed to the ordinary in society. But when you shout about them in public and create anger and animosity among your fellow citizens then you seem to be in defence of your own anger and arrogance only and nothing else.
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written by oliviacheng, February 08, 2010
written by oliviacheng, February 08, 2010
yawn..the way he tunes up the volume to be heard all the time...hes trying too hard to sell himself., right?...its like this reject is definitely a good tongue twister..jeesh, why cant he handle the situation professionally like zaid ibrahim???..we dont see zaid harping on this issue like him all the time...zaid is also of different character,..this man, hes the same par wt hee ,the reject who retards peraks image, both thick skinned, arrogant only thing hes more vocal,... sick, right?...
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written by Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza), February 08, 2010
written by Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza), February 08, 2010
So he thinks his "protest to oppose the Bar Council’s forum on the conversion to Islam" is not based on extremist stand?! Defending Islam means to him, is by opposing democratic and peaceful debate then? This man is definitely a Taleban in disguise! HIs extremist views and attitude are pathetic, justifying it using Islam and God!
Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza)
Germany.
Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza)
Germany.
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written by change28, February 08, 2010
written by change28, February 08, 2010
What should be clear to everyone is that religion makes fools of reasonable men!
Which is why we should all agree to leave religion as a personal relation between an individual and his chosen god, whatever that might be!
As far as I know, all the monotheist religions teaches that it is god that makes the final judgment and not men, however powerful these men may be.
Which is why we should all agree to leave religion as a personal relation between an individual and his chosen god, whatever that might be!
As far as I know, all the monotheist religions teaches that it is god that makes the final judgment and not men, however powerful these men may be.
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written by byejugg, February 08, 2010
written by byejugg, February 08, 2010
He is indeed a TALIBAN, just look at his thinking. Closer look, he becoming more like O sama..
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written by Kilo, February 08, 2010
written by Kilo, February 08, 2010
if you are not true to your party, QUIT! And QUIT now.
Then you can devout all your 110% to Islam. I support you 200%
Wearing two hats is deceiving the people who voted you.
Then you can devout all your 110% to Islam. I support you 200%
Wearing two hats is deceiving the people who voted you.
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written by whateveryou say, February 08, 2010
written by whateveryou say, February 08, 2010
he is full of contradiction in all his explanations. I wonder how we can have a logical , civil discussion on this matter if a person do not have a logical mind or thinking in his own statement. His arguement or reasons dont support what his point that he is trying to make?????????????
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written by lowxinpui, February 08, 2010
written by lowxinpui, February 08, 2010
May be you are taliban but definitely your ideals does not fit in this society.
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written by tempurung, February 08, 2010
written by tempurung, February 08, 2010
thank you for enlightening me mr zul.so now i know that islam need to be defended.you dont have to practice it.is this the malaysian version of islam.defend from what.is someone trying to destroy islam with a atom bomb.
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written by kangkau, February 08, 2010
written by kangkau, February 08, 2010
yb zul...pse resign as mp kulim bandar baharu now....the more noise u make...the more casualty u ar making to pakatan rakyat...
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written by vivek, February 08, 2010
written by vivek, February 08, 2010
The day you announced you are Muslim first and only human next than that Christain family in New Zealand with whom you stayed had been betrayed. All the exposure was in vain . You are obviously a threat to every non muslim in the world.
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written by malaysiabaru, February 08, 2010
written by malaysiabaru, February 08, 2010
When a thief says he is not a thief, what is he then?
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written by Democrat, February 08, 2010
written by Democrat, February 08, 2010
I'm a Muslim, and you DO NOT represent me. I resent you using God's name in vain for cheap political publicity.
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written by Sarah, February 08, 2010
written by Sarah, February 08, 2010
The best way to defend your religion is to be a good example. You vilify your own religion when you behave as though you had none. Why does a person have to assume that God wishes him/her to defend him? Is he not Almighty? When God has given us the right to exercise our freewill, who are we as mere humans to presume so much? Are we trying to be greater than God?
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written by Steven Ong, February 08, 2010
written by Steven Ong, February 08, 2010
Zul,
I think you are right when you said, you are neither a Taliban or an extremist. I meaned you have the right to say that you are not, then have you asked yourself why people are branding you as extreme or a Taliban? The problem I found with you and many Muslims like you, including the Taliban is that you can't see the wrong in you. Example, can you know a piece of dirt (shit) on your head ? No , unless someone told you. See what I mean? That is the problem with you and Muslims like you.
Have asked and checked what is wrong with the Talibans, or Muslims in Iraq or Pakistan? Do you know that in many countries , the Muslims majority persecute and oppressed other faiths? Have you got the answer? The free world had explained and condamed them and yet they cant see the problem. Cause they are somehow 'blind' to the truth.
I think you are right when you said, you are neither a Taliban or an extremist. I meaned you have the right to say that you are not, then have you asked yourself why people are branding you as extreme or a Taliban? The problem I found with you and many Muslims like you, including the Taliban is that you can't see the wrong in you. Example, can you know a piece of dirt (shit) on your head ? No , unless someone told you. See what I mean? That is the problem with you and Muslims like you.
Have asked and checked what is wrong with the Talibans, or Muslims in Iraq or Pakistan? Do you know that in many countries , the Muslims majority persecute and oppressed other faiths? Have you got the answer? The free world had explained and condamed them and yet they cant see the problem. Cause they are somehow 'blind' to the truth.
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written by Zen, February 09, 2010
written by Zen, February 09, 2010
Since when is his religion being challenged? Stupid fellow with a small mind. He is kid in a man.
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written by Anak Sarawak, February 09, 2010
written by Anak Sarawak, February 09, 2010
The result of mixing Religion and Politic is National Suicide. I believe religion is to foster a humble upbringing and teach us to be a better person and not an issue to subdue others. In Malaysia, we are feeling the opposite. Religion is a MUST TOPIC during campaign and Race is the other one. These two are favourite subjects for the UMNO and BN led government. What is going to happen to Malaysia? Sigh....
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written by anak malaysia, February 09, 2010
written by anak malaysia, February 09, 2010
"I respect other religions... but when my religion is challenged, I cannot compromise. I put religion before everything else (including political party),”
those are the word of the talibans! self confession indeed!
those are the word of the talibans! self confession indeed!
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written by Ellese, February 09, 2010
written by Ellese, February 09, 2010
Because of your stand muslims now respect you be it conservative and liberal. Of late all parties including PAS (TGNA) and UMNO (Najib) have shrieked their responsibility of defending Islam as practiced in Malaysia. The onslaught of the malaysian malaysia agenda typified by its torchbearer Malaysian Insider and Malaysiakini to push the country to the left must be put in check. Our cherished values and respect which we have practiced for decades were challenged by them without limits and regards to our feelings and views. You put a stop to this. You tell them that we exist and have feelings too. I salute you.
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written by dids, February 09, 2010
written by dids, February 09, 2010
to Unconvinced..........dont be stupid, he is a malay protecting malay muslim. Why should he go and defend china, india etc. Oh maybe the DAP and other pakatan rakyat supporters their alligence are to china and india etc and never to their mother land malaysia! Stupid comment........
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written by Hazil, February 09, 2010
written by Hazil, February 09, 2010
I am a muslim and I support YB Zul before he appeared on TV3 last night and he has my respect before the end of the programme. During the interview, he was very consistent in his stance when A.Talib was trying to gauge his sentiment and possibly jumped on an opportunity to lure him to UMNO. But I can see he failed in every bid..he..he..
C'mon guys, grow up. Don't turn these media alternatives into one of MSM. If you read all above comments, you guys really foam at the mouth, (just borrow this phrase from RPK) just because YB Zul was saying things and acted in a way that does not bode well with you. It is time for Malaysians as you always claim so to embrace 'politics of conscience'. After all, freedom of speech is allowed within PR, don't you think so?
The point is, it is proven legal that Islam is specifically mentioned in the Constitution before the British transfered its power to us. Besides agreeing to the Sultans, why do you the British agree...go figure. So you don't need to ramble about if the Malays are somewhere else, and what not.. they are just another malay and islam bashing. No wonder you cannot differentiate between your long haul verbal attacks or bashing and giving constructive comments and jolted in surprise (such as who is attacking Islam? etc) when usually-calm-tak-nak-cari- gaduh malays like YB Zul stood up. Back to the Islam and Constitution issues, it was agreed by the leaders and supporters of Defenders of Pig and Defenders of Alcohol Party before the PR coalition took place. Now you want to back out and tried to justify and walk away with it! No wonder the ordinary Malays cannot trust you. Speaking of defenders..no wonder these bigoted people thinks pigs and alcohol are more deserving to be defended, but faith, it is between you and God.... Hmm, now I am beginning to see the pattern...And yet, speaking of pigs issues in Kedah which are also illegal and the DAP adun (if anyone may care to conveniently forget, he threatened to quit..really bodoh this guy), I have never come accross to any reference condemning his actions. He should be brought to book as well as other PAS and PKR aduns too. Why, you guys are just a bunch of hypocrites and as much as you threaten with your votes, hell.. I just wasted my last THREE GEs (1999, 2004, 2008) votes on DAP just to see a free and fair Malaysia
C'mon guys, grow up. Don't turn these media alternatives into one of MSM. If you read all above comments, you guys really foam at the mouth, (just borrow this phrase from RPK) just because YB Zul was saying things and acted in a way that does not bode well with you. It is time for Malaysians as you always claim so to embrace 'politics of conscience'. After all, freedom of speech is allowed within PR, don't you think so?
The point is, it is proven legal that Islam is specifically mentioned in the Constitution before the British transfered its power to us. Besides agreeing to the Sultans, why do you the British agree...go figure. So you don't need to ramble about if the Malays are somewhere else, and what not.. they are just another malay and islam bashing. No wonder you cannot differentiate between your long haul verbal attacks or bashing and giving constructive comments and jolted in surprise (such as who is attacking Islam? etc) when usually-calm-tak-nak-cari- gaduh malays like YB Zul stood up. Back to the Islam and Constitution issues, it was agreed by the leaders and supporters of Defenders of Pig and Defenders of Alcohol Party before the PR coalition took place. Now you want to back out and tried to justify and walk away with it! No wonder the ordinary Malays cannot trust you. Speaking of defenders..no wonder these bigoted people thinks pigs and alcohol are more deserving to be defended, but faith, it is between you and God.... Hmm, now I am beginning to see the pattern...And yet, speaking of pigs issues in Kedah which are also illegal and the DAP adun (if anyone may care to conveniently forget, he threatened to quit..really bodoh this guy), I have never come accross to any reference condemning his actions. He should be brought to book as well as other PAS and PKR aduns too. Why, you guys are just a bunch of hypocrites and as much as you threaten with your votes, hell.. I just wasted my last THREE GEs (1999, 2004, 2008) votes on DAP just to see a free and fair Malaysia
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written by concernedmal, February 09, 2010
written by concernedmal, February 09, 2010
By denying that he is an extremist speaks for itself. The true practitioner of Islam does not do the things he does nor dares say the things he has. Think he needs to go back to religious classes to get the idealogy correct. This man gives Muslims a bad name and sheds a negative light over them. Hope that he is a minority.
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written by kriss52, February 09, 2010
Mr. Zul, many non-muslims here not understand you so i think it is better for you not to speak much.
They (the non-muslims) can't differentiate betwen the termology and the faith of Allah.
You fight for the sake of faith they called you "extremist"; they really not understand !
written by kriss52, February 09, 2010
Mr. Zul, many non-muslims here not understand you so i think it is better for you not to speak much.
They (the non-muslims) can't differentiate betwen the termology and the faith of Allah.
You fight for the sake of faith they called you "extremist"; they really not understand !
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written by green technology, February 09, 2010
written by green technology, February 09, 2010
Zul, your unwavering stand on your principles gain the respect of many Malay Muslims.
Go ahead, and fight for what you stand for. Those who oppose you are those who are ignorant and full of self interests.
Go ahead, and fight for what you stand for. Those who oppose you are those who are ignorant and full of self interests.
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written by bulakbak, February 09, 2010
written by bulakbak, February 09, 2010
“At one stage in life, when you have money, although I am not that rich... I have family and everything, you start asking what is the purpose in life. So I started to understand myself which led me to this cause,” he said. Hmmmm...I think he should read the book "The Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren lah...
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written by Talibanot, February 25, 2010
written by Talibanot, February 25, 2010
Seems like the non muslims are very active with their comments here. Dudes Malaysia is a Muslim country. If you don't like it then go back to China or India. See how you like it there. Remember you Malays/Muslims...unlike these folks you have no 'mother' country to fall back on...thats why its called Tanah Melayu....Look at the Singapore malays..right now they can be smug that they are better off economically than their Malaysian bethrens...but even right now...more and more China immigrants are coming in and the Malay % will get smaller and smaller...
...From a Singaporean.
...From a Singaporean.
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